Showing posts with label The Fox and The Hound. Show all posts
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Sunday, July 1, 2018

The Fox and The Hound 1981, Once Upon a Mouse and the Disney Animated Feature Canon






                                                          video essay on The Fox and The Hound (1981)
                 


The Qeastionable Disney Animated Feature Canon

Acadamy Award Review 1937 Disney/Motion Picture Academy and Musicland 1955 Disney/RKO not included in the list Disney made

Academy Award Review
1937/1966 clips:




Walt Disney's Musicland 1955 lost Package Feature. This was made part of a final bitter deal with RKO at that time was run by a person who Walt did not like: Howard Hughes

More about the Lost Disney package film here


The Black Cauldron promotional materials and the list of  the Disney Animated Feature Canon 



                                     Images of the  promotional materials from Howard Lowery.com


 The Disney animated feature canon from 1985 is like the one the USA has these days. The cannon has the package features, the south America package features and the Winnie The Pooh package feature.

SInce 1985 The Black Cauldron (1985) is the 25th animated feature in the Disney animated feature canon, 



but in 1981 The Fox and The Hound (1981) was said to be the 20th.
here is the Trailer






and the short “Once Upon a Mouse”(1981) that was shown before The Fox and The Hound (1981)
watch here:





Here where I live in the USA, the film Dinosaur (2000) is Included in Disney Animated Feature Canon

In the UK and other countries Disney/Will Vinton's The Wild (2006) is included



Monday, May 21, 2018

The Disney Film That Never Was Part 2



This concept art has been mistaken for being made for The Black Cauldron.

it is not.

It is for a live action/animated hybrid film that Disney planned back in the late 70's

The Hero From Otherwhere  from author Jay H. Williams' book of the same title.


excerpts from Disney Wiki

"The story involves two boys, Jesse Rosen and Rich Dennison from Brixton, Connecticut with opposite attributes and common enemies at Brixton Junior High School were sent to Mr. Haggarty's office for fighting and they were transferred to an endangered planet known as Gwyliath".

"It never had offered intriguing production problems of every category of animation along with the encounters with the bizarre inhabitants of their new world and planet Gwyliath."

http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hero_from_Otherwhere
 it can be also found in the Disney Animation Studio brochure from the late 70's 
Excerpt from Disney Wiki
"From the section of November 2010 of the "D23: Disney Undiscovered" Calendar. It has shown that Jesse and Rich and the old man going to the top of Mount Teshombra".



other films in production, The Fox and The Hound (1981), The Black Cauldron (1985) and The Small one (1978).





The Young Animators Wern't Ready


Excerpt from
"The Black Cauldron": What Went Wrong by Jim Hill 


Perhaps it was Ron Clements (I.E. The co-director of such Disney classics as "The Little Mermaid" and "Aladdin") who put it best. When he asked about "The Black Cauldron," Ron reportedly replied:

"That film was supposed to be our 'Snow White.' But we just weren't ready for it."

"Who's this 'we' that Clements is talking about?," you ask. The then-young turks who had invaded Walt Disney Studios back in the mid-1970s. That next generation of artists & animators who were supposed to take over for the "Nine Old Men" and then lead Disney Feature Animation into a bold new era.
Mind you, this extremely talented group would eventually take WDFA to amazing new heights, churning out box office smashes like "Beauty & the Beast" and "The Lion King." But that would happen in the early 1990s, when the Walt Disney Company was being run by Michael Eisner and the corporation was then willing to take a few risks.
Back in the mid-1970s, the studio side of Walt Disney Productions was being run by Ron Miller. And Miller ... He didn't really like to take risks. Particularly when it came to Disney Feature Animation and his pet project, "The Black Cauldron."

Now, you have to understand that -- almost from the moment that Walt Disney Productions first acquired the rights to "The Prydain Chronicles" back in 1971 -- Ron thought that really great things would come from this project. That a truly fine film could be carved out of Lloyd Alexander's five book series. The sort of epic adventure that could vault Walt Disney Studios back to the very top of the Hollywood food chain.

And Miller's enthusiasm for "The Prydain Chronicles" project ... It was evidently contagious. Take -- for example -- this quote from Don Bluth. Who -- back in 1976, anyway -- was thought to be the future of Disney Feature Animation. One of the talented young artists who'd been entrusted to keep the traditions of "The Nine Old Men" alive.

Anyway, when asked by journalist John Culhane about what projects Disney Studios then had in the works that really excited Don, Bluth replied:

"Right now, enthusiasm for a story called 'The Black Cauldron' is boiling through the studio, and we hope that the new generation can touch people with that story in ways that Walt never dreamed of."

The only problem was ... Even though Miller was obviously excited about all of the possibilities involved with the "Prydain Chronicles" project ... Back in the mid-1970s, Ron didn't really think that the studio's young turks were actually up to the challenge of "The Black Cauldron." At least not  yet anyway.
http://jimhillmedia.com/editor_in_chief1/b/jim_hill/archive/2006/02/10/712.aspx



Excerpt from Disney Film Behind Schedule August 10 1978
by Aljean Harmetz


Los Angeles - "The Black Cauldron" Walt Disney"s $10 million animated film scheduled for 1980, is four years behind schedule.
It will not be completed until Christmas 1984,
because the new crop of young animators the studio has spent six years acquiring are not yet competent to handle in complexities.
"The Black Cauldron" which is based on Lloyd Alexander's interpretations of medieval Welsh mythology,
will be replaced in 1980 by a simpler and easier movie about animal friendship, "The Fox and the Hound."