Tuesday, May 22, 2018

"Oh We are Going To Make This Realistic" Part 2

Excerpt from an interview with Ron Clements and John Musker

                                                                     Ron and John

Ron: “We were both sort of united on Caldron,
from the standpoint that we had certain ideas for the movie that were not embraced, and we kind of became sort of…”

John: “We were the odd men out,
along with a few other people who wanted the story and the characters to go in a certain way,
and the people in charge didn’t see it that way. It was very frustrating.”

Ron: “We were exiled. We were basically banished from the movie.”

John: “They said, ‘You guys have a different idea, go off and do it.’”

Ron: “So we were both exiled from Cauldron and we both worked together on Great Mouse Detective. Ron Miller, who was the head of the studio at that point,
was the producer of Great Mouse Detective.
We had been working on the story for maybe a year and a half,
and Ron just disappeared.”

John: “He was busy fending off a takeover.”

Ron: “He never showed up, and we became this little floating island, [wondering], ‘Does anybody know that we’re here?’
Finally, Michael Eisner came, and Jeffrey Katzenberg, and Roy Disney came back, and we had to pitch our Great Mouse idea to them as if it were a brand new project,
even though we’d been working on it for a year and a half. They liked it and wanted to do it.”

http://www.animationmaga...ntion-the-unmentionable/



the animation guild's interview with Disney animator David Block


David Block: I Came off of Fox and the Hound, and there were two movies getting ready to go. One was The Black Cauldron, which everyone was so excited about,

Steve Hulett: yeah, yeah

David Block: and the other one was Mickey's Christmas Carol

So in those days if you wanted to lobby for yourself, you did a personal test on your own time.

working nights and weekends just you wern't established yet you wern't the ron clements or john polmeroys or that ilk

You had a sort of win them over that you could do something.

Steve Hulett: sure

David Block: so i did a test of the hero from black cauldron and I went in to show the director, one of the directors who remain nameless

and he looked at that and said "Oh thats thats much broader then anything we're going to be doing, we're going to go very realistic."

Steve Hulett: it was the sleeping beauty snydrum

David Block: So I came out of there and went" I gotta get off this movie, I gotta get on Mickey's Christmas Carol"

so I did get on Mickey's Christmas Carol. and that was phonominial. aah god what a blast. and I was among really great animators. Glenn was on it. ed gombert, randy cartwright, mark henn, dale bear

I was in a very select group of animators, and we had a great time, the picture came out great. and became kind of an anual event when the thing would show up on tv

and more importantly kept us off of black cauldron for two years


Steve Hulett: yeah

David Block
: That was fa fantasitic because that thing was going into the toilet real quick

Steve Hulett
: yeah

David Block: so mark and I finished Blac uhh Mickey's Christmas Carol together and went on to black cauldron together and we even went on to the same sequence together

Steve Hulett: yeah,

David Block: and...

Steve Hulett
you end up you still got it

David Block: we still got it but we gotta see some characters by Black Cauldron standards. we ende up doing this character Fflewder Fflam

Steve Hulett: he was good

David Block
: he was a comic relief

Steve Hulett: creeper was too that were comic relief

David Block: right and Gurgi was also comic relief. but anyway we got htis character.
so we got this character we worked on him and we got off early to work on basil of baker street.

Steve Hulett: yeah

David Block: which became great mouse detective we got on to that early


here is the link to the interview both audio and video: https://animationguild.o...ral_history/david-block/

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