Ron and John
(picture from A113 Animation Blog http://www.a113animation.com/2013/07/new-details-revealed-about-disneys.html )
Ron: “We were both sort of united on Caldron,
from the standpoint that we had certain ideas for the movie that were not embraced, and we kind of became sort of…”John: “We were the odd men out,
along with a few other people who wanted the story and the characters to go in a certain way,
and the people in charge didn’t see it that way. It was very frustrating.”
Ron: “We were exiled. We were basically banished from the movie.”
John: “They said, ‘You guys have a different idea, go off and do it.’”
Ron: “So we were both exiled from Cauldron and we both worked together on Great Mouse Detective. Ron Miller, who was the head of the studio at that point,
was the producer of Great Mouse Detective.
We had been working on the story for maybe a year and a half,
and Ron just disappeared.”
John: “He was busy fending off a takeover.”
Ron: “He never showed up, and we became this little floating island, [wondering], ‘Does anybody know that we’re here?’
Finally, Michael Eisner came, and Jeffrey Katzenberg, and Roy Disney came back, and we had to pitch our Great Mouse idea to them as if it were a brand new project,
even though we’d been working on it for a year and a half. They liked it and wanted to do it.”
http://www.animationmaga...ntion-the-unmentionable/
the animation guild's interview with Disney animator David Block
David Block: I Came off of Fox and the Hound, and there were two movies getting ready to go. One was The Black Cauldron, which everyone was so excited about,
Steve Hulett: yeah, yeah
David Block: and the other one was Mickey's Christmas Carol
So in those days if you wanted to lobby for yourself, you did a personal test on your own time.
working nights and weekends just you wern't established yet you wern't the ron clements or john polmeroys or that ilk
You had a sort of win them over that you could do something.
Steve Hulett: sure
David Block: so i did a test of the hero from black cauldron and I went in to show the director, one of the directors who remain nameless
and he looked at that and said "Oh thats thats much broader then anything we're going to be doing, we're going to go very realistic."
Steve Hulett: it was the sleeping beauty snydrum
David Block: So I came out of there and went" I gotta get off this movie, I gotta get on Mickey's Christmas Carol"
so I did get on Mickey's Christmas Carol. and that was phonominial. aah god what a blast. and I was among really great animators. Glenn was on it. ed gombert, randy cartwright, mark henn, dale bear
I was in a very select group of animators, and we had a great time, the picture came out great. and became kind of an anual event when the thing would show up on tv
and more importantly kept us off of black cauldron for two years
Steve Hulett: yeah
David Block: That was fa fantasitic because that thing was going into the toilet real quick
Steve Hulett: yeah
David Block: so mark and I finished Blac uhh Mickey's Christmas Carol together and went on to black cauldron together and we even went on to the same sequence together
Steve Hulett: yeah,
David Block: and...
Steve Hulett you end up you still got it
David Block: we still got it but we gotta see some characters by Black Cauldron standards. we ende up doing this character Fflewder Fflam
Steve Hulett: he was good
David Block: he was a comic relief
Steve Hulett: creeper was too that were comic relief
David Block: right and Gurgi was also comic relief. but anyway we got htis character.
so we got this character we worked on him and we got off early to work on basil of baker street.
Steve Hulett: yeah
David Block: which became great mouse detective we got on to that early
here is the link to the interview both audio and video: https://animationguild.o...ral_history/david-block/
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